Conservative Thought, Compassionate Spirit, Liberal Arts
Racism is alive and well in America.
Published on May 25, 2004 By John Gilliland In Politics
Racism is real. Racism is insidious. Racism costs this country billions of dollars in lost productivity and untold litigation. But how do you define racism? How do you prove racism in today's sanitized P-C society? These are questions Black Americans must wrestle with every day. These are questions I have only just come to grips with, as a White man married to a Black woman.

First, let me say that I grew up painfully aware of the predjudice that exists in America. I grew up diminishing Blacks. Not violently reacting, not insulting...just diminishing. My inner thoughts were that Blacks weren't as good as Whites, that they were somehow inferior. Not bad...merely less than Whites. As I matured and became educated, this idea was reinforced by the history I was learning. What could explain the domination of one race over another for hundreds of years...from the earliest colinization of the Americas all the way up to the civil rights movement of the 1960's. If Blacks were the equal to Whites, how could they have tolerated slavery and Jim Crow? If they were equal, how could they be so disproportionately involved with drugs and crime?

Then, I enlisted in the Navy, and for the first time I was thrust into close quarters with Black people. I was living and working with men with whom the only things I had in common were that I was a male American and had chosen to join the military. It was then that my attitude hardened into a kind of resentment. Many of my NCO's and several officers were Black. How could people I felt were less than me, be appointed to supervise me? I came to the not-to-unusual conclusion that somehow they had been given preferential treatment...some kind of affirmative action. While, looking back, I see this as totally ridiculous...at the time it made sense as it allowed me to hang on to my self-ascribed superiority. It also poisoned my outlook as I left the Navy and entered the real world.

But then I found the great equalizer...I entered University. I started attending a small, southwestern university set in a farm town. Any and all socialization took place on campus and I met an even greater cross-section of humanity than I had ever encountered before. I now studied with Blacks, Hispanics, Asians, Arabs, Native Americans, Indians, Pakistanis and Whites. I saw the same attitides in many of those Whites that I had labored under myself...and through that mirror I saw how wrong I was.

I also saw examples of the way men should live...no regard for color, only respect for ability and intelligence. It was at University that I met and fell in love with my wife. As I got to know her better as we dated, I realized that when I looked into her eyes, I didn't see the eyes of a Black woman...just the beautiful eyes of a woman: a woman with all the hopes, dreams and ambitions of all woman, irrespective of color. And, thank God, she also saw me as I am...not merely the color of my skin.

That was easier for me than it was for her. I had not suffered because of the color of my skin. Though I may have suffered, philosophically, I have not been turned down for jobs, loans, classes, schools, homes, cars, credit cards and all the other things White society takes for granted. My wife has suffered and is suffering every day because she is Black. She has been paid less, has been turned down for jobs, has even been treated differently academically all because she is Black.

These people think they are hurting her and, by extension, helping themselves. That is incorrect. My wife is articulate, ambitious, intelligent, intuitive, productive, loyal, discrete, and did I say productive? Since her most recent job search began, (she's a legal secretary) she has sent out resumes to hundreds of firms, been interviewed by several and hired by none. My wife has experience in several fields of law, can type like the wind and does dictaphone like lighting. She is charming and insightful and interviews well. She, on each occaision, has been given assurances that she is well qualified for each of these available positions. But EVERY time, she has been passed by...the offer is made to someone else. Were they all better qualified? Were they all better candidates. Yeah...and I'm Saddam Hussein.

It may be that some of these employers chose other candidates in good faith. But the galling thing about it is that you can't prove racism was motivating factor. Unlike the bad-old-days when old White men called a spade a spade, now the racists hide behind a labrynth of legalese and excuses that leave one dizzy with confusion.

These employers have lost out on an outstandingly productive and adaptive employee...someone who gives her all, during working hours, to her employer. In turn, they are hurting their clients, and by extension the court system (efficient and precise litigation) and the country (one less taxpayer). This is a great country, but the racists in this land are holding us back from true greatness. God help them.

Comments (Page 3)
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on May 26, 2004
Jeblackstar,

if the family presence were stronger, minors would either not get hold of guns in the first place, would be found out and have them taken away, or would receive proper training in the use and handling of firearms, and would receive much more of the direction they need to avoid becoming the kind of minor that joins a gang and goes out shooting into traffic for fun.

Obviously there are other significant impediments to progress, but I agree with Marvin that not having a strong family with clear values is probably the single largest factor.
on May 26, 2004
I appreciate all the positive and negative feedback. I apologize for any misunderstanding in my "spade-a-spade" reference. My intention was to viscerally illustrate my point that people used to speak their minds, pefore P-C became the norm. I did not mean to offend.
on May 26, 2004
YOU MUST LOOK AT ALL THE DATA LONG TERM. YOU CANNOT JUST LOOK BACK A COUPLE OF YRS. AS YOU LOOK BACK AT THIS COUNTRY OVER THE LAST 10 YRS--THE LAST 20 YRS--THE LAST 40 YRS, YOU WILL SEE EXACTLY WHAT I AM TALKING ABOUT. YOU YOUNG PEOPLE ARE ONLY LOOKING AT YOUR LIFE'S EXPERIENCES. YOU MUST LOOK AT HISTORY. I CAN SURE BELIEVE IT WHEN THEY TELL US THAT HISTORY HAS NOT BEEN TAUGHT IN THE SCHOOLS FOR DECADES. YOU PEOPLE REALLY MUST DO A LOT MORE STUDYING. AMERICA IS BECOMING A VERY IGNORANT NATION. IF THIS CONTINUES THE FUTURE WILL BE VERY BLEAK AND UNBELIEVABLE PROBLEMS WILL COME. THEN, WE WILL ALL LOOK AT THE MESS WE ARE IN AND WONDER HOW ALL THIS COULD HAVE OCCURRED. WE MAY SOON BE FACING A FAR WORSE TIME THAN WORLD WAR 2. ONLY THIS TIME IT WILL BE ALSO HERE IN THE U.S.A. AS WELL AS WORLDWIDE.
on May 26, 2004
How about guns in the hands of minors, that's a pretty major impediment to african american progress


I think if you have any kids, black or white, running around with guns, there was generally a break down in their family in the vast majority of instances. You can't refer to a side effect or result of one problem and say that's a problem in and of itself.

VES
on May 26, 2004
I think it is tragic that racism still exists. Some deny it exists, but it just isn't as open as it once was, but it is still there.
My Dad would deny that he is racist, yet I have witnessed him treating black people differently than we would if the same person were white. I don't think he does it conciously, its just how he was brought up. At least he didn't put that kind of thinking into me as I treat everyone equally no matter what their skin color or other difference from me.
In fact I recently lost a close relationship with someone because she was of the notion that races shouldn't mix and she couldn't continue to be my friend because I was interested in a black woman. She said she didn't consider it racist to think that way, but I believe it is. Its saying a group of people only fit in with your world up to a certain point that you determine. I don't consider her friendship a big loss now though since I find it difficult to associate with such close-minded people.
I have seen TV shows on this subject and there are indeed black people who feel the same way, that the races shouldn't mix. So close-minded people can and do exist in all walks of life.
I have always wondered how my Dad would react if I ever had someone other than a white girlfriend, but that has not happened yet. I don't believe he would stop loving me, but I don't believe he would be 100% accepting either.
on May 26, 2004
and Hes been looking diligently

i apologize for slipping off topic but im curious as to why youre capitalizing the "h" in pronouns like his and he
on May 26, 2004
ALL THE DATA LONG TERM. YOU CANNOT JUST LOOK BACK A COUPLE OF YRS. AS YOU LOOK BACK AT THIS COUNTRY OVER THE LAST 10 YRS--THE LAST 20 YRS--THE LAST 40 YRS[/B

well that explains why i feel so ancient alla damn time.

well need to use the wayback machine again i guess
on May 27, 2004
Humans (and other animals) tend to fear others that look different and seek out others that resemble themselves naturally

precisely the reason i made a point of distinguishing prejudice (to which youre referring) and racism. i wasnt really meaning to provide more than descriptions and limitations. its a huge leap from childrens' fear of the strange and affinity for the familiar to a culturally or socially engendered propensity for nullification of a minority groups humanity on the basis of physical traits.

those of you who feel we're over that as a culture might want to consider the implications of the designations hispanic or latino in light of the fact theres no corresponding need for a franco or italianic category. people of european spanish ancestry arent commonly victimized on the basis of ethnic origin. the target is the african or native american ancestor
on May 27, 2004
I worked as a Canadian Peace Corps volunteer in a country that was 99.9% black. Our group of volunteers were posted around the world and we kept in touch via an e-group to share our experiences. Let me tell you white people aren't exactly greeted with open arms on this planet. The majority of us got our asses robbed or beaten, purely because of the colour of our skin. That's real racism

if, at the moment youd entered that country, you were unable to find accomodations, shop, eat, wash or urinate in hotels, markets, restaurants and restrooms used by members of the majority race; if youd been required to step off the pavement when the members of the majory race approached; if you'd been castrated as well as robbed then beaten again when you tried to report the crime for having the audacity to slander your betters, that would have been real racism. as awful as being beaten or robbed by a group of thugs who didnt like you because of your race may be--and im sorry you experienced that especially since you were in the country to assist its citizens--it might as easily happened to any other foreign national regardless of country. people are robbed and beaten in neighborhoods near mine because they live elsewhere and the only color issue is between blue and red.
on May 31, 2004
Let me propose a experiment: Let Black people enslave white people for a period of 300 years. Then un-legalize such slavery, but do nothing to quell such inherent racism that would surely ensue. Hand out "carrot-sticks" in the aftermath to basically say "no harm done". Systematically underfund and underplan everything connected to the "lower class". Use the government and the military to crush "lower class" uprisings (civil rights era), i.e. Saddam Hussein. Then in forty years after the uprising era, ask "What happened??? Why are your people so disadvantaged now???"



Allot of people do not see it that way even though it make sense. I am not sure but I believe this is the only country in history who enslaved, set free and the people who were under that oppression live amongst the the same. for the lack of a better example it has gone well, nevertheless there are reasons why there are still problems, not understanding the above hi-lighted is one of them.
on May 31, 2004
With 2/3rds of African American children being born out of wedlock and the high school drop out rate amongst blacks so high, it isn't surprising that as a group, African Americans do poorer than whites.


Don't let the statistics put a different spin on what it is. The problem is still based on past reasons. I will agree with this:


Or put another way, black failure, like most failure in life, is usually the result of personal choices. Where racism comes in is through limiting the level of success blacks achieve. There is an old saying that goes something like this: Success has many fathers, failure is an orphan. You need a lot of people to help you succeed in life and that's where racism comes into play against blacks. It only takes a few people to be racist or prejudice at the right time to prevent someone from achieving the success they deserve.


I personally believe that most 'black' people are still thinking its 1950 something or worst when it is not. There are opportunities abound and a path has been opened, but some decided all they will be is 'bad' or 'a product of the environment'. It is hard to be different when people call you 'white' when you go to school or 'uppity' if you have a good job. There is racism, but there also is self doubt and self destruction. It is unfortunate that in the wake of 'white America' excepting 'blacks' and wanting them in the economy and as equals, 'blacks' still see the lid closed on the jar. Why? Because:

Let me propose a experiment: Let Black people enslave white people for a period of 300 years. Then un-legalize such slavery, but do nothing to quell such inherent racism that would surely ensue. Hand out "carrot-sticks" in the aftermath to basically say "no harm done". Systematically underfund and underplan everything connected to the "lower class". Use the government and the military to crush "lower class" uprisings (civil rights era), i.e. Saddam Hussein. Then in forty years after the uprising era, ask "What happened??? Why are your people so disadvantaged now???"



Strangely, the US should actually know what would have happened when Saddam was gone, oppressed, un-educated, family lost peoples who are out of work. It will take generations to move into a way of thinking that is not violence and death.
on May 31, 2004
in the wake of 'white America' excepting 'blacks' and wanting them in the economy and as equals, 'blacks' still see the lid closed on the jar. Why? Because

if you honestly believe most white americans are able to accept and want black coworkers as equals--much less superiors--because you've witnessed it at your job (where management structure, entrance positions and every job class in between is similarly multiracial) someone needs to start publicizing your employer's method for solving a major domestic problem. if the whites in your work force never whisper racist jokes to each other, refer to blacks as 'them' , do impressions of certain black co-workers or offer an opinion that at least one of 'them' got his or her job because of minority preference your employer and fellow workers deserve to be nationally recognized. if white and black employees socialize frequently outside of the job for other than job-related activities, ditto.

if any of those three things isnt 100% true, you maybe should rethink your take on racial relations in the us today.
on May 31, 2004
Knowledge and education is the only solution to ignorance and prejudism.  Your article shows how you have changed with time and you show an ability to accept things and change yourself accordingly which is the anti-thesis to narrowminded thinking.  To accept an individual as your equal based on actual character is an enlightened way to think.  I wish more could accept things like you.
on May 31, 2004
very astute and insightful assessment psychx
on Jun 02, 2004
ALL THE DATA LONG TERM. YOU CANNOT JUST LOOK BACK A COUPLE OF YRS. AS YOU LOOK BACK AT THIS COUNTRY OVER THE LAST 10 YRS--THE LAST 20 YRS--THE LAST 40 YRS


Marvin, I was alive forty years ago. That's not history, that's not even really the serious past. I'm a history professor, I know history. The time in America when "Family Values" were "strongest" was when racism was the worst. I grew up in Los Angeles. I saw race riots that tore up Englewood and East L.A. I saw racism in all it's violent and dirty forms when I lived in the rural country of Oklahoma and Georgia. I saw it in it's "passive" forms in my law firm in Portland, from both my clients and my partners. I'm not yet fifty years old, and I've seen more than my fair share of racism and abuse in this country. I've even seen it on the other side, but you know why that's different? Because the whites have the opportunity, they have the money, they have the education. Sure there are poor whites, and there are rich minorities, but the numbers don't come even close to evening out.

I don't know how old you are, or what your background is, but the lawyers who worked in my firm, came from loving families, and they were taught by their mommies and daddies that "the black man is worth less than the white one." It may never have been said, but if you've ever been told an off color joke and not told the person to shove it, then you're as guilty as they are of racism.

Cheers
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