Conservative Thought, Compassionate Spirit, Liberal Arts
Racism is alive and well in America.
Published on May 25, 2004 By John Gilliland In Politics
Racism is real. Racism is insidious. Racism costs this country billions of dollars in lost productivity and untold litigation. But how do you define racism? How do you prove racism in today's sanitized P-C society? These are questions Black Americans must wrestle with every day. These are questions I have only just come to grips with, as a White man married to a Black woman.

First, let me say that I grew up painfully aware of the predjudice that exists in America. I grew up diminishing Blacks. Not violently reacting, not insulting...just diminishing. My inner thoughts were that Blacks weren't as good as Whites, that they were somehow inferior. Not bad...merely less than Whites. As I matured and became educated, this idea was reinforced by the history I was learning. What could explain the domination of one race over another for hundreds of years...from the earliest colinization of the Americas all the way up to the civil rights movement of the 1960's. If Blacks were the equal to Whites, how could they have tolerated slavery and Jim Crow? If they were equal, how could they be so disproportionately involved with drugs and crime?

Then, I enlisted in the Navy, and for the first time I was thrust into close quarters with Black people. I was living and working with men with whom the only things I had in common were that I was a male American and had chosen to join the military. It was then that my attitude hardened into a kind of resentment. Many of my NCO's and several officers were Black. How could people I felt were less than me, be appointed to supervise me? I came to the not-to-unusual conclusion that somehow they had been given preferential treatment...some kind of affirmative action. While, looking back, I see this as totally ridiculous...at the time it made sense as it allowed me to hang on to my self-ascribed superiority. It also poisoned my outlook as I left the Navy and entered the real world.

But then I found the great equalizer...I entered University. I started attending a small, southwestern university set in a farm town. Any and all socialization took place on campus and I met an even greater cross-section of humanity than I had ever encountered before. I now studied with Blacks, Hispanics, Asians, Arabs, Native Americans, Indians, Pakistanis and Whites. I saw the same attitides in many of those Whites that I had labored under myself...and through that mirror I saw how wrong I was.

I also saw examples of the way men should live...no regard for color, only respect for ability and intelligence. It was at University that I met and fell in love with my wife. As I got to know her better as we dated, I realized that when I looked into her eyes, I didn't see the eyes of a Black woman...just the beautiful eyes of a woman: a woman with all the hopes, dreams and ambitions of all woman, irrespective of color. And, thank God, she also saw me as I am...not merely the color of my skin.

That was easier for me than it was for her. I had not suffered because of the color of my skin. Though I may have suffered, philosophically, I have not been turned down for jobs, loans, classes, schools, homes, cars, credit cards and all the other things White society takes for granted. My wife has suffered and is suffering every day because she is Black. She has been paid less, has been turned down for jobs, has even been treated differently academically all because she is Black.

These people think they are hurting her and, by extension, helping themselves. That is incorrect. My wife is articulate, ambitious, intelligent, intuitive, productive, loyal, discrete, and did I say productive? Since her most recent job search began, (she's a legal secretary) she has sent out resumes to hundreds of firms, been interviewed by several and hired by none. My wife has experience in several fields of law, can type like the wind and does dictaphone like lighting. She is charming and insightful and interviews well. She, on each occaision, has been given assurances that she is well qualified for each of these available positions. But EVERY time, she has been passed by...the offer is made to someone else. Were they all better qualified? Were they all better candidates. Yeah...and I'm Saddam Hussein.

It may be that some of these employers chose other candidates in good faith. But the galling thing about it is that you can't prove racism was motivating factor. Unlike the bad-old-days when old White men called a spade a spade, now the racists hide behind a labrynth of legalese and excuses that leave one dizzy with confusion.

These employers have lost out on an outstandingly productive and adaptive employee...someone who gives her all, during working hours, to her employer. In turn, they are hurting their clients, and by extension the court system (efficient and precise litigation) and the country (one less taxpayer). This is a great country, but the racists in this land are holding us back from true greatness. God help them.

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on May 25, 2004
good post
on May 25, 2004
A very good post.
on May 25, 2004
excellent article. you seem to have learned so much in a relatively short time--knowledge far too many people never grasp.. in addition to the outrages and damage you describe, theres equally pernicious way in which racism wastes our national potential. hatred (whether overt or camoflauged in euphemism) is far too frequently the scam used by the unscupulous to keep us from acting as one.

i wish you and your wife the best.


(gotta point out tho...this is an atrocious pun Unlike the bad-old-days when old White men called a spade a spade)
on May 25, 2004
A great post.

Reminds me of a story my old english teacher told the class. She used to look down on chinese people, ends up she married a chinese man.

10-4
on May 25, 2004
Thanks for the post. I think it makes some good points. Prejudice does still exist just not as overtly as it used to be, I agree. I'd just like to point out that racism is not only a "white man's" disease (I don't think you were making that point). People of any race, religion, creed, gender, etc. can be prejudice. And any minority can be discriminated against, like a white person in an office full of black people for instance - I've seen that one recently. Regardless of who the target of prejudice is, it is an ugly thing.

Your wife sounds like she has the talent to be an asset to whoever is smart enough to hire her first. Good luck to both you and your wife.
on May 26, 2004
There is very little true racism in America today. The major problem in America today is the breakdown of the family. The effects on children of disinigrated families is the major cause of all our problems. The causes that leads to family breakdown was brought about by liberism. Its all very complex.
on May 26, 2004
Personally, I think Bill Cosby has a more accurate assessment of the state of affairs for black Americans.

http://www.oregonlive.com/commentary/oregonian/index.ssf?/base/editorial/10854867683540.xml

http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/040522/nysa014_1.html

Also, here are a lot of comments from folks who frequent the BET web site. In reading through them, it appears the majority of responses agree with Mr. Cosby's statements.

http://www.bet.com/articles/0,1048,c1gb9713-10708-1,00.html#boardsAnchor

VES
on May 26, 2004
Marvin, do you have any support for your statement, facts or figures? I think that you would be hard pressed to come up with any.

An interesting comparision of the socio-economic status of Black Americans as compared to White Americans can be found at http://www.civilrights.org/issues/poverty/details.cfm?id=22435
Just to cite one statistic "Income wise, a black man earns an average of $16,876 less than a white man, and a black woman earns $6,370 less than a white woman." I am quite aware that inequity of outcome is not necessarily caused by inequity of opportunity, but it is still a disturbing statistic.

Another interesting article on the divisions between Black and White Americans can be found at http://www.aarpmagazine.org/people/Articles/a2004-03-17-mag-changeheart.html
This article deals more with perceptions than with statistics, but a telling figure is that "While 56 percent of whites say they believe that "all or most" of the goals of Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. and the 1960s Civil Rights Movement have been achieved, only 21 percent of blacks agree with them."

While almost all Americans agree that progress has been made, we differ in our opinions of how much progress.


on May 26, 2004
Personally, I think Bill Cosby has a more accurate assessment of the state of affairs for black Americans

more accurate than marvin? puh-leeeze
on May 26, 2004
Great post!

There are a few things I'd like to add my opinion on though:
I don't believe America is the only place that racism is holding back. I was also in the military, and grew up as a military brat, which means I've lived in all sorts of other places in the world, and racism exists everywhere. It's a stupid thing, but it seems to be human nature to see your "team" as better than the other teams. Obviously, physical appearance is the easiest was to draw lines between us and them. I can't see it ever completely going away from human society.

I believe if we ARE ever going to achieve a situation in which racism isn't as much of an issue, ALL forms of racism need to be removed when possible. I believe Affirmative Action was definitely necessary when legal segregation ended, but now that I believe it just helps reinforce some of the opinions you said you held earlier in life like, “I came to the not-to-unusual conclusion that somehow they had been given preferential treatment...some kind of affirmative action.” I’m sure you weren’t alone in this opinion at the time.

-Splateaux
on May 26, 2004
I admire interracial couples that can make it work despite the added pressures. I had a black girlfriend. I wasn't prepared for the amount of hatred leveled by complete strangers. I couldn't handle it then and doubt I could handle it now.

It's easy to think racism is mainly a thing of the past in America. That's an illusion. It just put on a nice suit of clothes and disguised itself. It doesn't take much for racism to forget itself and come seething to the forefront. For a good example look at what happened in Los Angeles when Claudia Trejos was made weekend sports anger on a non-spanish language station. The reaction was shameful and embarrassing. She even received daily death threats calling her a wetback and telling her to go back to Mexico. (She's Columbian.) This in a major metropolitan city hailed for it racial diversity! Unfortunately L.A. is as separate as it is diverse.
on May 26, 2004
Incredible post... But I do take offense to the term "spade" being Black American...

The saddest part of the realities behind racism is that it works in both ways. I'm personally "mean" to white people at all times. Not to flame of course, but as such, Blacks are very skeptical of white America in general... Then to see how Blacks are then analyzed and copied (hip-hop, music, art, lifestyle, etc.)... Or over-glorified because of super-natural skill (all sports except hockey)... Shows how hypocritical white America can be. But then so am I...

I love the stupidity of the comments of "the breakdown of family values" without any insight of to HOW this happened... Since oregonlive.com's reference ridicously bastardized Cosby's statement and is flagrantly racist in tone and inflection... the yahoo piece was a tiny bit more accurate, but still ignorance reigns. Let me propose a experiment: Let Black people enslave white people for a period of 300 years. Then un-legalize such slavery, but do nothing to quell such inherent racism that would surely ensue. Hand out "carrot-sticks" in the aftermath to basically say "no harm done". Systematically underfund and underplan everything connected to the "lower class". Use the goverment and the military to crush "lower class" uprisings (civil rights era), i.e. Saddam Hussein. Then in forty years after the uprising era, ask "What happened??? Why are your people so disadvantaged now???" - Such a comment lets me know that some form of hard-core drugs are being used in white communities...Or just plain ignorance...

Anyone stupid enough to believe that Affirmative Action did a HUGE favor for Blacks is truly misinformed. This AA is like the other AA (Alcoholics Anonymous), people ashamed of what they did and now they want a seven-point plan on how to make it right.

I wish you and your wife well, but I'm also "kinda" disturbed that your philosophical views didn't change for so long. Better late than never though
on May 26, 2004
there is a distinct difference between prejudice and racism. prejudice connotes an opinion that is arrived at without any reasonable basis. in other words, it is prejudging a person or group for any of a zillion stupid reasons none of which has any substance. its dumb, usually counterproductive and evidences a lack of perception. everyone is capable of prejudice to some extent.

prejudice is to racism as a thunderstorm is to a hurricane. while both phenomena are storms and come into being as a consequence of certain climactic conditions, hurricanes are not only many times more powerful and potentially far more destructive; they also require an additional component. unlike other storms, hurricanes only form in a specific geographic location over open ocean.. no matter how severe a storm may be, if it originates over land it isnt a hurricane.

racism also requires a unique essential ingredient...racists have to be members of the dominant or majority racial group.. in the us, racial minorities may be bigoted, biased or prejudiced but they arent racists.
on May 26, 2004
But I do take offense to the term "spade" being Black American

i shouldnt have drawn attention to that. in context, it could very easily be totally unintentional. its not a term thats commonly used these days and he may not even be aware of the implication.
on May 26, 2004
racism also requires a unique essential ingredient...racists have to be members of the dominant or majority racial group.. in the us, racial minorities may be bigoted, biased or prejudiced but they arent racists.


What is your definition of racism?

She, on each occaision, has been given assurances that she is well qualified for each of these available positions. But EVERY time, she has been passed by...the offer is made to someone else. Were they all better qualified? Were they all better candidates. Yeah...and I'm Saddam Hussein.

It may be that some of these employers chose other candidates in good faith. But the galling thing about it is that you can't prove racism was motivating factor. Unlike the bad-old-days when old White men called a spade a spade, now the racists hide behind a labrynth of legalese and excuses that leave one dizzy with confusion.


That sort of logic doesn't help things any. "A company didn't hire a qualified Black person, therefore they must be racist".

I didn't think credit card applications included race.
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